Comments on: Race-bias on SAT http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/ words are deeds Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:33:51 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: TheFreshBabulal http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-7644 TheFreshBabulal Thu, 06 Aug 2009 06:20:03 +0000 http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-7644 Theodore, I'm not sure what the definition of "intellEgent" is but I suggest using the correct spelling of words, especially a word like that! Theodore, I’m not sure what the definition of “intellEgent” is but I suggest using the correct spelling of words, especially a word like that!

]]> By: Steve Harrington http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5950 Steve Harrington Wed, 04 Jun 2008 17:02:23 +0000 http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5950 At this point, the real problem with the SAT is that it is used instead of careful evaluation of prospective students. At any college, there is a floor of knowledge and intelligence, and if the student is above that floor, his success at college will depend on his motivation and interest. So when the college trys to improve its quality by picking students with every higher SAT scores or high school grades, instead of talent or motivation, it ends up reducing the quality by accepting students that burned out in high school. At this point, the real problem with the SAT is that it is used instead of careful evaluation of prospective students. At any college, there is a floor of knowledge and intelligence, and if the student is above that floor, his success at college will depend on his motivation and interest.
So when the college trys to improve its quality by picking students with every higher SAT scores or high school grades, instead of talent or motivation, it ends up reducing the quality by accepting students that burned out in high school.

]]> By: em http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5935 em Thu, 22 May 2008 23:04:24 +0000 http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5935 Um its actually Ghana, West Africa my friend. Um its actually Ghana, West Africa my friend.

]]> By: Theodore Gifford http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5843 Theodore Gifford Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:20:32 +0000 http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5843 But seriously, I think it's acceptable that the SAT include questions which cater to more worldly students. I don't know what intelligence is if it isn't being able to understand the basics of wilderness, concepts of race and gender, and general facts and principals of life that can't be learned in a book. Is it your opinion that intelligence is only arthimitic, memorized history, and literacy? True, a student who has had the oportunity to experience the world in a way which would allow him or her to know these things is more likely to be middle to upper class and white, but that is a different issue. Racism unfairly makes some groups of people poorer than others. If you're lower class, you can't afford to have the expierences that would allow the moose question, or the gender/race question to be answered. Similarly, being lower class usually means getting a crapier academic education as well. So it's really not a cultural issue, as much as the much bigger issue of racial economic disadvantage. THAT is what needs dealing with. Changing the definition of "intellegent" to suit disadvantaged youth will not change anything. But seriously, I think it’s acceptable that the SAT include questions which cater to more worldly students. I don’t know what intelligence is if it isn’t being able to understand the basics of wilderness, concepts of race and gender, and general facts and principals of life that can’t be learned in a book. Is it your opinion that intelligence is only arthimitic, memorized history, and literacy?

True, a student who has had the oportunity to experience the world in a way which would allow him or her to know these things is more likely to be middle to upper class and white, but that is a different issue. Racism unfairly makes some groups of people poorer than others. If you’re lower class, you can’t afford to have the expierences that would allow the moose question, or the gender/race question to be answered. Similarly, being lower class usually means getting a crapier academic education as well.
So it’s really not a cultural issue, as much as the much bigger issue of racial economic disadvantage. THAT is what needs dealing with. Changing the definition of “intellegent” to suit disadvantaged youth will not change anything.

]]> By: Theodore Gifford http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5842 Theodore Gifford Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:56:33 +0000 http://markfranek.wordpress.com/2003/12/15/race-bias-on-sat/#comment-5842 Just about the walrus/moose thing: Moose similarly spend a lot of time not in forests. They can be seen just as easily wading in a river or romping through an open feild. So HAH! I just quartered your split hair. Just about the walrus/moose thing:

Moose similarly spend a lot of time not in forests. They can be seen just as easily wading in a river or romping through an open feild.
So HAH! I just quartered your split hair.

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